Keep the Line Moving

Our podcast “Keep the Line Moving” is focused on highlighting leaders who have led in ways that have impacted people in a profound way. We break down how they inspire, motivate, and touch the hearts of the people they lead. This is not a typical podcast discussing the wins and losses of leaders. We go behind the scenes hearing how they practically, strategically, and empathically lead people to achieve beyond their collective and individual abilities.

“Keep the Line Moving” is a baseball metaphor that epitomizes a team-first approach. Hitters do what it takes to keep the inning alive by hitting behind the runner or bunting – taking a selfless approach to scoring runs and ultimately helping the team win. We will have discussions on how emphasizing team goals over personal goals will help everyone win.

Someone Like You
Someone Like You

Marc Riccio has held leadership positions across the sports business world and is currently the President and CEO of USA Lacrosse. Marc embodies being a student of leadership, continuously learning and adapting his leadership style. Marc and I talk about being what your team needs you to be, establishing company culture and knowing your why. 

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Key Takeaways from Marc:

  • What you do is less important than why you do it.
  • Be vulnerable, ask questions, and learn from your mistakes.
  • Be a continuous learner.
  • Adapt your leadership to what your team needs.

Previous Episodes

Episode 1 - Anthony Becht

For our premier, I had the pleasure to sit down with my very good friend Anthony Becht. A 12-year NFL veteran, first round draft pick, and the third NFL offensive player to play 152 consecutive games, Anthony is currently the Head Coach of the XFL’s St. Louis BattleHawks. We covered Anthony’s NFL career, his transition to coaching, and his leadership approach. He shared how he’s taken the lessons he learned as a player and applied them to motivating and leading his own team.


Key Takeaways:


    • Perseverance has been a major force in Anthony’s life since childhood.
    • Always doing more than what is required is a way of life.
    • Failure has fueled his passion rather than deterred him.
    • Transparent and honest communication is the foundation of his philosophy for his new job as Head Coach of the St. Louis BattleHawks.

Episode 2 - Staci Slaughter

I sat down with Senior Executive Advisor at the San Francisco Giants, Staci Slaughter! Staci spent the last 27 years turning the Giants into the beloved team they are today through her incredible work in their media relations, public affairs, marketing communications programs, and community outreach activities. Staci and I discussed teamwork at the Giants, the massive collaborative effort that was the construction and opening of Oracle Park, and the years of foundation-laying that led to the Giants’ 2010 World Series win.

Key Takeaways:


    • Keep your goals at the heart of everything you do, think about the why behind your actions.
    • A collaborative spirit within the leadership team set the tone for Staci’s approach to her career.
    • The ‘secret sauce’ of the Giant’s reputation is their connection with the community and fans.
    • Staci’s approach has been to listen first and to gain insight before acting.

Episode 3 - Mike Witt

Mike Witt spent much of his career in leadership positions including as a regional Vice President and received many leadership certificates for his work. He followed his passions and is now the owner and operator of Anytime Fitness in Sausalito, California. He is also a great friend of mine since childhood. Being raised by an Army Colonel, Mike knows and thing or two about leading and shared with us some of the most important lessons he’s learned in his career.

Key Takeaways:


    • “Street leadership vs. Seat Leadership”: spend as much time with your team as possible in their environment, not just behind your desk.
    • You don’t have to fit into a specific leadership mold, allow yourself to adapt and create your own style that works best for you and your team. 
    • Catch people doing things right. It’s easy to focus on negatives, but looking out for the positives creates a rewarding work experience.
    • “Take care of your people”: the best words of advice Mike got from his father, the colonel.


Episode 4 - Erik Coleman

I sat down with Erik Coleman, former safety for the New York Jets, Atlanta Falcons, and Detroit Lions! Going from a challenging childhood where Erik had to take on a lot of responsibilities at a young age to an amazing nine-year career in the NFL to currently working as the VP of NFP and a broadcaster, Erik has crafted a truly impressive career. Erik shared how he built the drive that got him to the NFL, the lessons he learned from coaches along the way, and the work he put in to crafting his post-pro career.   

Key Takeaways:

    • Stay on the path. Focus on your goals and what you need to do to achieve them. 
    • You don’t become the best overnight, you have to consistently outwork everyone else.
    • Some of the best leaders don’t have to be vocal, they speak through their actions.
    • Success doesn’t breed success, success breeds complacency.

Episode 5 - Courtney Jeffries

I got to chat with my former colleague at the Oakland Raiders, Courtney Jeffries! Courtney is currently the CEO of Virtual Tables, an exciting time in her very successful career. She spent years in the operations side of sports at the Raiders, Pac-12, and Madison Square Garden before making the daunting shift to tech. Courtney shared her lifelong connection to sports, her very educational time as a team member at the Raiders, and how she’s changed her work and leadership styles since being in tech.

Key Takeaways:

    • It’s important to have a ‘boots on the ground’ attitude in order to understand the people and positions you manage.
    • When it comes to your legacy, the way you treat people is as important as what you achieve.
    • Don’t be afraid to ask for help when you need it – it can save you and your team a lot of trouble.

Episode 6 - Ken Mack

For our Super Bowl Special episode, I sat down with Emmy Award winning producer, Ken Mack, who has produced six Super Bowls for CBS Sports. Starting at CBS immediately after graduating from Harvard University, Ken has spent the last 33 years producing content for the NFL, golf, tennis, college basketball and more. We talked about his journey into production, the inner workings of his incredible team, and what goes into putting on some of the most high-profile events in sports. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Camaraderie and trust in your team is a must-have for high-stress jobs.
    • If people see that you care about them, they will care about you, the job and the product.
    • The key to longevity in your career is to love what you do.

Episode 7 - Josh Loeffler

After graduating from Swarthmore College in 2003, Josh Loeffler quickly realized that a desk job just wouldn’t cut it. Today, he is the Head Coach of Johns Hopkins’ Men’s Basketball team and is leading them to victory. Josh has an incredible story about following his passions and finding his calling as a coach. He has led many talented athletes in his life and every practice has helped craft his unique leadership style. Josh talks about his coaching philosophy, how his own children have influenced him, and how he connects with his players. 

Key Takeaways:

    • You have to possess self-awareness when dealing with individuals and team dynamics.
    • Follow your passions, even when it seems like everyone else is going down the expected path.
    • Leaders have the tough job of telling people what they need to hear, even if it’s not what they want to hear.
    • Truly caring about your people and your responsibilities is necessary as a leader.

Episode 8 - Anne Shadle

We all know athletes put an incredible amount of work into maintaining their physical health for the sake of their sport. But what about maintaining their mental performance? Well, that’s where this week’s guest, Dr. Anne Shadle, comes in. As the Director of Mental Performance for the New York Jets, Anne works directly with players to guide and education them through the mental perseverance required of a professional athlete.

Key Takeaways:

    • Know the ‘why’ behind what you do and commit yourself to it.
    • A team succeeds by supporting and caring for each other and the work they do.
    • The relationships you form need to possess connection and quality.

Episode 9 - Bri Newland

I had a great conversation with my colleague, Dr. Brianna Newland! Bri is a Clinical Associate Professor and the Academic Director of Undergraduate Programs at the Tisch Institute for Global Sport. Bri has been widely recognized for her incredible work, most recently by the North American Society for Sport Management, who awarded her their Garth Paton Distinguished Service Award. As a leader to emerging talent in sports at NYU, she has experienced an incredible leadership journey that began long before she ever taught a class. Bri talks about her leadership, education, the mentors that guided her along the way, and the approach she takes to preparing emerging leaders for their post-college careers.

Key Takeaways:

    • You can practice ‘quiet leadership’ through your actions and your influence.
    • When you’re learning, it’s valuable to focus on the process, not the outcome.
    • Three tips for being a great leader: be patient, observe, and always listen.

Episode 10 - Jalal Leach

I spoke with Jalal Leach, a man who proves that hard work does indeed pay off. We grew up on the same street, went to the same schools, played on the same teams and, at 18, Jalal took his talents as a baseball player to Pepperdine University. From there, he was drafted by the New York Yankees and spent 12 seasons dedicating himself to his craft in the minors. In 2001, he finally made it to the majors while playing for his hometown team, the San Francisco Giants. Jalal and I talked about the many lessons he learned from his parents, the strength he carried through the minors, his breakthrough into the majors, and his work now as a scout for the Giants.

Key Takeaways:

    • Persevere. Keep working towards your dreams and turn your obstacles into learning opportunities.
    • Be aware of the consequences of your actions and act with purpose.
    • Value the strength and support you get from the people who care about you.

Episode 11 - Herm Edwards

Spending over half a century playing and coaching football, Herm Edwards lives and breathes the game. After a standout college and NFL playing career, he knew his football journey was only beginning. Coach Edwards dedicated himself to helping others and became the Head Coach of the New York Jets in 2001 and later led the Kansas City Chiefs and Arizona State. Herm takes us through this journey with anecdotes, valuable lessons, and a greater understanding of what it all meant to him. We talk about his work ethic as a player, his coaching philosophy, and the many ways he has inspired and connected to the players he has led. 

Key Takeaways:

    • People will respect your title, but you have to earn their trust.
    • It’s more valuable to give your players direction than correction.
    • Treat everyone fairly, but not the same.
    • You have to make sure your players know you care.

Episode 12 - Marty Lurie

Growing up near Ebbets Field in Brooklyn, Marty Lurie’s love of baseball took hold early and never left. It was this very love that led to his impressive law career and eventually led to him being inducted into the Bay Area Radio Hall of Fame. Marty’s career is tied together by the many layers he says coexist between baseball, law, storytelling, and life. Marty and I talked about his childhood in Brooklyn, his journey to criminal law, and the proud dedication he puts into everything he does, from legal trials to radio shows. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Follow your passions, however they take form. 
    • Give back to the people who come after you.
    • Fight for the underdog. 

Episode 13 - Mark C. Crowley

Mark C. Crowley has spent decades leading teams in the financial services industry with exceptionally strong results. In an industry known for being cutthroat, what set Mark apart was his approach to put human emotions first and lead with genuine care for his team. Mark’s philosophy is built off the knowledge and research that feelings and emotions drive up to 90% of our behavior and positively impacting these emotions will create a highly motivated team. Mark and I talked about what drives his leadership methods, the need for this approach in the modern workplace, and what he believes leaders must do to successfully lead their teams.

Key Takeaways:

    • The most successful way to motivate people in the workplace is to positively affect their hearts.
    • Lead in a way that aligns with who you want to be and how you want to be perceived.
    • A leader is not only responsible for the team’s deliverables but for the wellbeing of their team members.

Episode 14 - Georgia O'Donoghue

As the Vice President of Business Operations at Atlanta United FC, Georgia O’Donoghue is in an incredibly demanding position. That doesn’t stop her, however, from personally ensuring that her team is motivated and fulfilled in their work every day. Georgia’s hands on leadership style has evolved from being involved in team sports, studying leadership, and learning from every position she has held. Georgia and I discuss her draw to leadership, how she maintains a strong and successful team, and the many tidbits of wisdom she has to share with fellow leaders, both established and emerging. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Embrace the opportunities that make you uncomfortable. 
    • To be liked, you have to be respected and to be respected, you have to be honest.
    • Having the mindset to persevere through and despite losses can lead you to a lot of success.
    • Building and forming relationships is essential to getting through life. 

Episode 15 - Cynthia Frelund

As a child attending elementary school abroad, Cynthia Frelund found comfort in math, where her passion and talent for numbers provided her with a path. That comfort has taken her far, as the first Analytics Expert for NFL Media. Cynthia provides viewers with fact and analytics-based insights that have the power to change how people watch and play the game. Cynthia and I talk about her diverse and impressive journey, the courageous efforts she has put into achieving her goals, and the many lessons she has learned along the way.

Key Takeaways:

    • Listen more than you speak.
    • Don’t be afraid to reach out to people, the worst they can say is no.
    • Connect with and have empathy for others.
    • Ask good questions, which takes preparation, listening, and research.

Episode 16 - Brian Baldinger

At 11 years old, Brian Baldinger knew that sports would be an integral part of his life. With this belief, and a steady determination imparted in him by his Marine Corps father, Brian has dedicated his life to doing what he loves. Brian had a successful 13-year career in the NFL and later became a broadcaster, currently working as an analyst on the NFL Network. Brian shares with us his determination to make it as a football player, the many lessons he’s learned in his career, and the gratitude he has for every experience he’s had along his journey.

Key Takeaways:

    • When taking on a project, establish a strong and supportive team.
    • Take the time to show gratitude for the opportunities you’ve been given.
    • When you truly love what you do, it shows in your results.
    • Nobody goes through their journey alone, value the people around you.

Episode 17 - Nikki Fargas

Already having been a successful player, coach, and broadcaster, Nikki Fargas has effortlessly transitioned into her role as President of the defending WNBA Champions, the Las Vegas Aces. Since she took on the position, Nikki has helped build the team’s fanbase, worked with owner Mark Davis to launch their Alumni Initiative, and saw the team win their first ever WNBA Championship. Nikki tells me about playing under Coach Pat Summitt and her Definite Dozen, the Aces’ Alumni Initiative honoring former players and their contributions to the organization, and what winning the Championship has meant to the players, the organization, and the city of Las Vegas. 

Key Takeaways:

    • You are the company you keep so spend time with people who share your passions, aspirations, and goals.
    • Communication is key. Your entire organization has to be aligned with your goals and end game. 
    • Go into every meeting with an open mind and leave being able to say that you’ve learned something today.

Episode 18 - Will Clark

Will Clark is widely known for his many impressive accomplishments as a baseball player including a Golden Spikes Award, a Silver Slugger Award, and a Gold Glove Award. Behind the accolades is a man with endless determination, a deep understanding of the game, and a belief that grit can outplay talent. Will is now utilizing his skills to guide current players as a special advisor and hitting instructor for the San Francisco Giants. Will the Thrill sat down with me to talk about his remarkable career, the many people who shaped his journey, and how he is working to lead the younger generation.

Key Takeaways:

    • Drive and effort can be more valuable than base talent.
    • Get the most out of your abilities and talent.
    • Any organization must have clear communication through every level.

Episode 19 - Amit Patel

Rakuten is the Japanese word for optimism. Amit Patel, CEO and President of Rakuten Americas embodies rakuten. Leading 4,000 employees, Amit’s responsibility is his people and ensuring that they are safe, happy, and in the best environment they can be. Amit sits down with me to talk about finding and following his passion, Rakuten’s partnership with the Golden State Warriors, the aspects of Japanese work culture that Rakuten brings to America, and his advice for other leaders. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Allow your interests to turn in to passions.
    • Find the people who see you and have your best interests at heart. 
    • Leaders create leaders.
    • You are more likely to get people to follow you based on your actions than on your title.

Episode 20 - Imry Halevi

Imry Halevi serves as the Associate Director of Athletics, Content and Strategic Communications at Harvard University. In his time at Harvard, Imry has boosted viewership, helped develop and launch the Ivy League Network, and helped facilitate the partnership with ESPN that launched the Ivy League on ESPN Network. Chairing multiple content and media committees across Harvard and the Ivy League, Imry leads not for titles, but because he wants to motivate others. Imry talks to me about finding his passion for content, what he values most in his team members, and the attributes of great leaders. 

Key Takeaways:

    • You recognize good leadership when you see it. 
    • Your leadership must be flexible for people and circumstances. 
    • A leader who explains the why and how of a task is more motivating than one who only tells you the what. 

Episode 21 - JT the Brick

John Tournour found his passion in sports radio early and went for it. Three decades later, he is JT the Brick, with his own national show, podcast, and various programs for the Las Vegas Raiders. JT’s journey has been full of inspirational people, lasting relationships, incredible experiences, and life-long lessons. JT tells me about the path that brought him to his career, the many attributes that he believes make a good leader, and the life lessons that he has to share. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Always be sincere and authentic no matter the environment or people present.
    • To be a good leader is to truly listen to what the people around you have to say.
    • Message to younger self: slow down and enjoy the world around you.
    • Leaders must have the ability to effectively communicate.

Episode 22 - Stedman Graham

This guest works with a simple yet powerful mission: to help others empower themselves. Stedman Graham was recently awarded the Horatio Alger award for his success against great adversity, his commitment to higher education and charitable efforts in the community. Stedman and I talk about what it means to truly know yourself, the value of a positive mindset, and the courageous nature of great leaders. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Define yourself by what’s inside you, not your external circumstances.
    • Your foundational support and guidance has a huge impact on your success.
    • A positive mindset reaps positive rewards.
    • Find your passion and put in the work to reach it.

Episode 23 - David Hollander

This guest created and teaches the only-of-its-kind course, How Basketball Can Save the World. Earlier this year he released a widely acclaimed book of the same name. He is my colleague, David Hollander. David and I talk about the unique human connection that exists on a basketball course, how this connection transfers to life, and the emotional intelligence and skills that leaders must possess. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Leaders need to be able to connect with other people.
    • Ubuntu: I am because you are. 
    • Locate your joy and use it to live the life you want to live.
    • None of us are just one thing.

Episode 24 - Karen Dillon

Karen Dillon and her co-author Rob Cross were researching high performing individuals when they came across what they call The Microstress Effect. They found that seemingly insignificant interactions with others could result in microstresses that build up and eventually cause major amounts of stress. Karen and I talk about how they came to discover the microstress effect, the three different types of microstresses, and the proactive techniques we can use to avoid them. 

Key Takeaways:

    • You have to be self-aware to acknowledge and deal with your microstresses.
    • It’s important to form strong and lasting relationships.
    • Removing microstresses is more valuable than trying to combat their impact.
    • A negative interaction can have up to 5 times the impact of a positive interaction. 

Episode 25 - Scott Leykam

As the VP of Athletics at the University of Portland, Scott Leykam has overseen some of the school’s most successful athletic years and the department’s highest ever cumulative GPA in this past fall semester. He was recognized for these achievements in June with the NACDA Athletics Director of the Year Award. Scott and I talk about his time working with Hall of Fame Coach Bill Walsh, unexpected career moves, and caring about the people you lead. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Never take your relationships with co-workers or peers for granted.
    • Do what you love but let the road take you where you’re meant to be.
    • Pay it forward.

Episode 26 - Bob Wischusen

With 18 years under his belt at ESPN and 21 as the play-by-play voice of the Jets, Bob Wischusen is living his dream. Bob has worked his way up from the radio station at Boston College to covering professional sports at the highest level. Bob and I talk about how to find what you’re passionate about, putting in the work while you’re starting out, and the dedication it takes to do what you love. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Find out what excites you, what you pay attention to, what you look forward to… find your passion.
    • People will take notice of the effort you put in and reward you for it.
    • No one starts out at the top, you have to work your way up.

Episode 27 - Adam Grossman

This week’s guest is Adam Grossman, the Chief Marketing Officer and Executive Vice President of the Boston Red Sox and Fenway Sports Management. Adam leads many teams in multiple organizations with patience, planning, and a trust that his people are talented and capable. Adam and I talk about his mission of making emotional connections with the fans, the need for great leaders at the top of organizations, and the importance of hiring well.

Key Takeaways:

    • Brand vision is a major focus for successful organizations.
    • Every single hire matters.
    • Company culture is your foundation.
    • You must prioritize building trust across your team and organization.

Episode 28 - Jennifer Tombaugh

As the president of a global travel company, Jennifer Tombaugh works first and foremost for people. Leading her organization through unprecedented times, building trust within her team, and taking Tauck to new levels, Jennifer leads by example. We talk about navigating the travel industry during Covid, the love and passion Jennifer has for her job, and her philosophy for servant leadership. 

Key Takeaways:

    • In times of uncertainty, stay true to your values.
    • People look to you as their leader for reassurance.
    • Collaboration is priceless.
    • Building trust requires vulnerability, truth, and empathy.

Episode 29 - Matt Capurro

He has planned and organized two Super Bowls, two NFC Championship games, one NFL Pro Bowl game, and two NFL International Series games in London and Munich. He is Matt Capurro, the Vice President of Coaching Operations at the Seattle Seahawks. Matt and I talk about the many legendary coaches he has worked with, the intricacies of planning an entire NFL season, and the motivating environment of the Seahawks’ organization. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Prioritize communication on an individual and organizational level.
    • Be prepared and organized going into your day.
    •  A leader has to be a motivator, have empathy, be a great listener, and be able to pull people with them.
    • Listen and learn.

Episode 30 - Marty Lyons

Recipient of the 1984 Walter Payton Man of the Year Award and 2011 Heisman Humanitarian Award, Marty Lyons is dedicated to serving others. Marty played in the NFL for the New York Jets and is now the team’s radio color analyst. Marty and I talk about the lessons imparted in him by Coach Bear Bryant, why he started the Marty Lyons Foundation, and the importance of giving of yourself. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Sometimes you have to slow down to realize just how fortunate you are.
    • Don’t let anyone tell you you can’t do something.
    • A winner in the game of life is the person who gives of themselves so others can grow.
    • Value your time and spend it wisely.

Episode 31 - Steve Dagostino

Steve Dagostino has a twofold philosophy as a coach: have genuine love for the game and commit yourself to reaching your full potential. As a Basketball Player Development Coach, Steve serves over 1,000 players a year spanning from kindergarten to the NBA. Steve and I talk about his own basketball journey, the importance of mental performance alongside physical, and putting your actions above your words. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Commit and be consistent.
    • Maximize your own unique talents.
    •  Know the value of hard work and dedication.
    • An ideal teammate is unselfish and lets their actions speak for them.

Episode 32 - Meka White Morris

In 2021, Meka White Morris was hired as the inaugural Chief Revenue Officer of the Minnesota Twins and tasked with increasing the franchise’s revenue. She did that and so much more and today is the Twins’ Executive VP and Chief Business Officer. Meka and I talk about the unified culture of the Twins, lessons she learned from her father and NBA legend Jo Jo White, and her desire to pave the way for a more inclusive and accessible sports industry.

Key Takeaways:

    • Surround yourself with people who are diverse in perspective and though.
    • Know your limitations as much as your strengths.
    • There is strength in vulnerability.
    • Know the value of your time and be intentional in how you spend it.

Episode 33 - Rob Swymer

Author of ‘Surrender to your Adversity,’ Senior Tech Executive, and Global Leadership Coach, Rob Swymer is helping others build resiliency and overcome their obstacles. Rob’s mission is to make mental health a normal conversation globally and spread the servant leadership mindset. Rob and I talk about his own journey of self-improvement, the importance of mentors and reverse mentors, and the many benefits of leading with love and empathy. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Focus on coming from a place of gratitude every single day.
    • Be a continuous learner and be comfortable being uncomfortable. 
    • Be authentic, lead with empathy, and lead with a servant leadership mindset.
    • You can’t work on your mental health and personal development alone. 

Episode 34 - Ed Dodds

As the Assistant General Manager to the Indianapolis Colts, Ed Dodds oversees the day to day operations that keep the team and organization running. A former scouting evaluator, Ed has a knack for recognizing talent and planning for the future. Ed and I talk about the Colts’ evaluating system that he helped build, his complementary relationship with GM Chris Ballard, and his dedication to working hard for what he wants. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Don’t be afraid to say ‘I don’t know’.
    • Be demanding if you need but always lead with love.
    • Don’t rest on your laurels, keep striving to be better.
    • Pay it forward.

Episode 35 - Jerry Goff

From the University of California, Berkeley, to the Montreal Expos, Pittsburg Pirates, and Houston Astros, Jerry Goff has led an exciting professional baseball career. He now gets to relax and watch as his son paves his own pro sports career as the quarterback of the Detroit Lions. Jerry and I talk about his career journey, the lessons he learned from great leaders in his life including his father and coaches, and what he’s passed down to his children. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Listen more and be less reactionary. 
    • Time management is critical.
    • Put in the work and sacrifice to get to where you want to be.
    • Be proud of what you do.

Episode 36 - Hannah Gordon

Named one of football’s most influential women by, Hannah Gordon went from a UCLA football beat writer to Chief Legal and Administrative Officer of the San Francisco 49ers to Senior Advisor for the President of the 49ers. Her book, SZN of Change, teaches what she’s learned to help others excel in their professional and personal lives. Hannah and I talk about how she worked her way up in the NFL, the leaders who inspired her, and her own tough but big-hearted leadership style. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Qualities she looks for when hiring: smart, hardworking, and integrity.
    • Meet people where they are but don’t change yourself for others.
    • Be open to feedback. 
    • Be the kind of person that others want to vouch for when asked.

Episode 37 - Oakland McCulloch

This week’s episode is all about servant leadership with retired Lieutenant Colonel Oakland McCulloch. Oak’s 23 years in the army, as well as his inherent passion, have graced him with the knowledge of how to be a truly great leader. Oak and I discuss the importance of caring for your people, leading with humility, trust, and reflection, and his advice for leaders and organizations that want to work for their people. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Being a leader isn’t about you, it’s about the people you lead.
    • Whether failure or success, your reaction should be the same: reflect and learn.
    • Leaders must know their people.
    • Get out of the way and trust your team to do their jobs.

Episode 38 - Bob Turner

Get out of your comfort zone with Dr. Bob Turner, author of Zone Leader: 7 Tactics for Leading in the Zones. Dr. Turner is an author, motivational speaker, coach and consultant dedicated to helping leaders implement positive change and help develop the next generation of leaders. Bob and I talk about the many leadership lessons in his book, continuously learning as a leader, and empowering the leaders who come after you. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Leadership is a continuous learning journey.
    • Know the difference between effective communication and communicating effectively. 
    • Leaders must be worthy of peoples’ trust.
    • You must be willing to listen and learn from others. 

Episode 39 - Kate Scott

Kate Scott has soared in her career by coupling great talent with creating a positive impact on everyone she’s worked with. After 20 years of determination and success as a female broadcaster, Kate is currently the play-by-play announcer for the Philadelphia 76ers. Kate and I discuss her groundbreaking career journey, the genuine passion she has for broadcasting, and how she leads her life with kindness. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Dedicate yourself to reaching your goals.
    • Approach people and their stories with empathy and compassion.
    • Maintain and nurture your relationships.
    • Don’t just ask for help, give people a reason to want to help you. 

Episode 40 - Fred Mangione

While Fred Mangione has spent nearly three decades in the world of professional sports, his leadership lessons are universal. Fred is the former COO of the Brooklyn Nets, former Senior VP of Sales, Marketing, and Premium Partnerships at the New York Jets and current Managing Director of MM Sports Consulting. Fred and I talk about his tips for career longevity, his experience opening Barclay’s Center, and his kind and approachable leadership style. 

Key Takeaways:

    • It’s all about the people you take the journey with throughout your career. 
    • A managerial role does not mean you’re ready or equipped to lead.
    • Don’t mistake kindness for weakness.
    • The front office needs to bring passion to the organization. 

Episode 41 - Chris Carrino

The 2023 recipient of the NBA’s ‘Values of the Game’ award, Chris Carrino, is the lead radio play-by-play announcer for the Brooklyn Nets. For over two decades, Chris has cemented himself not only as an incredible broadcaster but as a stellar teammate. Chris and I talk about being inspired by the great Marty Glickman, his experience with FSHD and founding the Chris Carrino foundation, and his advice to people who need the courage to follow their passion.

Key Takeaways:

    • You have to love the process.
    • If something’s important to you, you’ll have the courage to do the hard stuff.
    • Relationships aren’t automatic, they have to be cultivated.
    • Be a hype person for your people.

Episode 42 - Brandon Guyer

Former MLB player and Founder of Major League Mindset, Brandon Guyer gives us a lesson on healthy mindsets. Brandon played Major League Baseball for 7 seasons and made it to the World Series in 2016 before retiring and starting his own company as a Mental Strength Coach. Brandon and I talk about how changing his mindset transformed his on-field performance, and the work he does not to help athletes and non-athletes alike. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Your mindset is just as important as your physical abilities.
    • You have to do the work.
    • Prioritize self-care and give yourself fuel. 
    • The work you put in off the field will help your performance on the field (whatever your field may be.)

Episode 43 - Sandy Khaund

Sandy Khaund is a serial entrepreneur with 25 years of experience across software development, product marketing, business development, and strategy consulting. In his time in leadership positions at his own companies as well as multiple Fortune 500 companies, Sandy has developed his unique leadership style. Sandy and I talk about adaptable leaders, knowing your why, and enjoying your journey. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Leaders must adapt to the people they lead. 
    • Take time when you’re starting your career to experience and explore. 
    • Find your calling but enjoy the journey. 
    • Find and know your why. 

Episode 44 - Buddy Biancalana

Buddy Biancalana experienced a ‘zone moment’ while playing in the 1985 World Series for the Kansas City Royals, playing better than he ever had before. He’s now dedicating his life to helping others harness their full potential and operate in the zone. Buddy breaks down his World Series zone moment, explains the brain-body connection, and tells us how athletes and non-athletes alike can work in the zone. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Let go of the need to control situations.
    • Approach others with empathy.
    • Exercise and value your emotional intelligence. 
    • Don’t let fear get in the way of what you want.

Episode 45 - Raven Jemison

As the Executive Vice President of Business Operations at the Milwaukee Bucks, Raven Jemison is no stranger to leading others. Raven has worked her way up in the sports industry and recently shared her knowledge with the world in her book, ‘More Than Representation.’ Raven and I discuss her very impressive career, the key takeaways from her new book, and how she helps her mentees find their path.

Key Takeaways:

    • Leaders should give their people the resources they need to be successful then trust them to do their job.
    • You can’t effectively lead if you don’t listen.
    • You have to be accountable and own your journey. 
    • ‘Play the game’ to achieve your goals but do so authentically.

Episode 46 - Dr. Andrew Campbell

Dr. Andrew Campbell took a long hard look at himself when he realized he was becoming a toxic leader. Now, he’s on a mission to change the way organizations and leaders treat their people through his coaching, speaking, and writing. Dr. Campbell and I talk about the power of forgiveness, sharing your leadership philosophy and values, and self-awareness strategies for becoming the best version of yourself. 

Key Takeaways:

    • The relationship comes before the problem.
    • Know your leadership philosophy and share it.
    • Be self-aware and be mindful of how you come across to others.
    • When something’s not working, look inward and assess.

Episode 47 - Liz Masen

Liz Masen has started two companies in her life, and both were dedicated to helping others. Her current company, Athlete Assessments, provides behavioral assessments to help athletes, coaches, and more understand themselves and reach their full potential. Liz and I talk about how she and her husband came up with Athlete Assessments, how leaders can optimize their behavior, and the importance of leading for your people. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Adapt your leadership style to how your people need you to lead.
    • Get to know your people and form genuine connections.
    • Pursue what you love.
    • Compliance does not equal commitment. 

Episode 48 - Steve Hellmuth

Steve Hellmuth is being inducted into the 2023 Sports Broadcasting Hall of Fame for his work in production, systems design, and technology. The recently retired Executive Vice President of Media Operations and Technology at the NBA and I talk about the groundbreaking systems he helped design, his relationship with bosses David Stern and Adam Silver, and the work he put in to lead and support his teams. 

Key Takeaways:

    • The freedom to fail leads to courage and innovation.
    • A leader needs to be an advocate for their team.
    • Be the steady leader people can look to in times of chaos.
    • Give people the opportunity to share their ideas and collaborate. 

Episode 49 - Larry Miller

As the Director of Music Business at NYU Steinhardt, Professor Larry Miller is educating the next generation through his undergraduate and graduate courses. Larry was a trailblazer himself in the industry, founding a record label, consulting in the industry, and hosting his own podcast. Larry and I talk about his passion for music, how he got into the entertainment business, and how he’s influencing his students at NYU.

Key Takeaways:

    • Always keep learning and developing yourself and your skills.
    • Find your passion and put in the work to follow it. 
    • To be a leader is to hold yourself accountable.
    • Be authentic and true to yourself.

Episode 50 - Sasha Zivanovic

Co-Founder and CEO of Nextologies, Sasha Zivanovic, leads people with positivity and confidence. After taking over his parents’ trucking business, Sasha worked his way up in the tech world until he started his own company. Sasha and I talk about his love of teaching others, how he trusts his team to do their jobs, and the importance of a boots on the ground leadership style.

Key Takeaways:

    • Be able to teach and pass along your knowledge. 
    • Trust your people to do their jobs and step in when they need you. 
    • Creating a positive environment leads to positive outcomes.
    • Don’t ask you team to do things that you wouldn’t do. 

Episode 51 - Best of Season One

To wrap up season one, we’re looking back on the leadership lessons that make this podcast so valuable. We’re bringing together some of our best guests to showcase the leadership topics that have been brought up over and over again. This season has been full of wisdom on listening, self-awareness, genuine relationships, hard work, and what it means to be a leader. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Listen more than you speak.
    • Look inward and assess.
    • Relationships are everything in work and in life.
    • If you want to follow your passion, you have to put the work in.

Episode 52 - New Year, New Season

To kick off season two of Keep the Line Moving, we’re switching things up. Team Reporter and Producer at the New York Jets, Ethan Greenberg guest hosts and interviews me on my very eventful 2023. We talk about my decision to leave sports content and start the Gargano Leadership Group, what I’ve learned while hosting Keep the Line Moving, and how I’m helping people become better leaders through my work at GLG. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Don’t be afraid to step off the path and follow your passion.
    • Leadership is a journey of continuous learning. 
    • Caring for and supporting your people leads to incredible results.
    • To be a great leader, you have to first be self-aware.

Episode 53 - Coaches Week Part One

This is part one of a five-part series where we talk about baseball and leadership with coaches and execs at the annual American Baseball Coaches Association Conference in Dallas. Part one features Erik Bakich, Head Coach at Clemson University, and Angel Flores, Manager of the Double A Mississippi Braves. They talk about servant leadership, understanding your players, and creating a supportive culture. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Leadership must be approached with a service mindset.
    • Empathize with your players by putting yourself in their shoes. 
    • The relationship and connection come before the game.

Episode 54 - Coaches Week Part Two

This is part two of a five-part series where we talk about baseball and leadership with coaches and execs at the annual American Baseball Coaches Association Conference in Dallas. Part two features José Cruz Jr., former major leaguer and Head Coach at Rice University, and Ryan Daggs, League Director and Head Coach at Show Me Baseball. We talk about knowing your players, developing your overall baseball acumen and working hard for the common goal.

Key Takeaways:

    • Coaches have to understand their players to coach effectively. 
    • You can’t coach want-to, that has to come individually.
    • Mental preparation is just as important as physical.
    • Lead by example.

Episode 55 - Coaches Week Part Three

This is part three of a five-part series where we talk about baseball and leadership with coaches and execs at the annual American Baseball Coaches Association Conference in Dallas. Part three features Walter Beede, Author, Podcast Host, and Baseball Consultant, and Aaron Pridmore, Host of the S.L.I.D.E. Podcast. They talk about what baseball means to young kids, the life lessons you learn from the game, and leading with positivity. 

Key Takeaways:

    • What’s in front of you is more important than what’s behind you. 
    • See each player as an individual.
    • Approach people with positivity.
    • Don’t chase others, follow the path that best suits you.

Episode 56 - Coaches Week Part Four

This is part four of a five-part series where we talk about baseball and leadership with coaches and execs at the annual American Baseball Coaches Association Conference in Dallas. Part four features Bernie Martinez, Head Coach at New Diana High School, and Barron Becker, Partner at Kelly Kronenberg Law Firm. They talk about the importance of curiosity, leading people how they want to be led, and motivating through kindness.

Key Takeaways:

    • The best skill for a coach or leader is to ask the right questions.
    • Being the loudest person in the room does not equal respect.
    • Tailor your leadership style to how your team needs you to lead.

Episode 57 - Coaches Week Part Five

This is the final part of a five-part series where we talk about baseball and leadership with coaches and execs at the annual American Baseball Coaches Association Conference in Dallas. Part five features Andy Stankiewicz, Head Coach at USC. Andy talks about his time in the MLB, creating a strong team culture, and having a winning mindset.

Key Takeaways:

    • You have to have a growth mindset and continue to get better.
    • Listen and learn from your team.
    • Get stronger as the grind gets harder.
    • Being a team player is a skill for sports and life.

Episode 58 - Caiti Donovan

From startups to major corporations to starting her own business, Caiti Donovan has had quite a career. Today, she is the Growth Strategy Lead at the WNBA, contributing to both the short and the long-term vision of the league. Caiti and I talk about the importance of genuinely caring and listening to the people around you, approaching situations with curiosity, and leading people to work towards a common goal. 

Key Takeaways:

    • You can find learning and opportunity from any situation.
    • Don’t be afraid to follow your curiosity.
    • An organization should have a ‘north star’ goal that everyone works towards.
    • You have to genuinely care for people and their stories in order to connect with them.

Episode 59 - Rich Gannon

Rich Gannon spent 17 years as an NFL quarterback for Minnesota, Washington, Kansas City, and the Oakland Raiders. He was an analyst for CBS for 16 years and is currently the pre-season game analyst for the Las Vegas Raiders. Rich and I talk about his 2002 NFL MVP win and Super Bowl appearance, his experience as a leader, and the important relationship between quarterbacks and head coaches. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Leaders must have a servant-mindset. 
    • Teams excel when everyone is working towards a common goal.
    • Prepare well to perform your role the best you can. 
    • An organization must have strong leadership at every level. 

Episode 60 - Suzy Whaley

In 2003, Suzy Whaley became the second woman to ever qualify for a PGA tour event. She was also the first woman to ever be appointed to serve as an officer of the PGA of America and President of PGA of America. She is now a board member, coach, and President of Golf Nation. Suzy and I talk about committing yourself to your goal, understanding your weaknesses, and the importance of a support system. 

Key Takeaways:

    • When you let go of the fear of failure, you’ll find so much more joy in what you’re doing.
    • Surround yourself with people who support you.
    • You have to leave your comfort zone in order to grow.
    • If you’re prepared and put everything you can into something, even your failure is a success.

Episode 61 - Greg Papa

This week on Keep the Line Moving, we’re taking a deep dive into the NFL. Our guest is Greg Papa, Play-by-Play Announcer for the San Francisco 49ers. Greg and I talk about how the 49ers are preparing for the Super Bowl, what a win would mean for the city of San Francisco, and the leadership traits of the best coaches Greg has worked with throughout his career. 

Key Takeaways:

    • When you’re on a team, you have to perform for the greater goal.
    • Don’t let the fear of failure stop you.
    • Talent must be supported by effort.
    • Celebrate the winners, don’t always focus on the negatives.

Episode 62 - David Tyree

This week on Keep the Line Moving, we’re taking a deep dive into the NFL. Our guest is David Tyree, former wide receiver for the New York Giants and receiver of the historic Helmet Catch. David and I talk about how the Helmet Catch changed his life, the work he’s done for current players, and his thoughts on the upcoming Super Bowl LVIII.

Key Takeaways:

    • Practice humility but be proud of your accomplishments.
    • You find contentment when you know you’ve give your very best.
    • Master what you’re in control of and accept the rest.
    • The trials you face cultivate who you are.

Episode 63 - Tony Richardson

This week on Keep the Line Moving, we’re taking a deep dive into the NFL. Our guest is Tony Richardson, former fullback for the Kansas City Chiefs, Vikings, and Jets. Tony and I talk about the upcoming Super Bowl LVIII, the importance of giving back to the community, and the mentors and coaches he learned from while in the NFL.

Key Takeaways:

    • People don’t care how much you know until they know how much you care. – Dick Vermeil.
    • Don’t prove people wrong, prove yourself right.
    • Be an expert at your role, no one should know your role better than you.
    • Lead by example and let your team know that you support them. 

Episode 64 - Dan Graca

From being a life-long Jets fan to radio intern to Jets radio host, Dan Graca has spent his entire career doing what he loves. Dan is a New York Jets pre- and post-game radio host on WEPN and hosts ESPN’s The Dan Graca Show. We talk about the role leadership played in Super Bowl LVIII, the importance of culture building in organizations and having faith in your unique path.

Key Takeaways:

    • Networking and developing relationships go hand in hand with ability.
    • Leadership and culture start at the top.
    • Be interesting and interested. 
    • Don’t compare your journey to others, it’s unique to you. 

Episode 65 - Aaron Woliczko

From standout college basketball player to assistant coach to head coach to Senior Associate Commissioner in the West Coast Conference, Aaron Woliczko has had quite the journey in basketball. Through his time as a coach and administrator, Aaron’s leadership philosophy has continued to evolve. We talk about his stance on servant leadership, empathy, and working as a team for a common goal. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Trust is both given and earned.
    • You never know what someone else is going through.
    • You can learn from people above you, at your level, and below you.
    • Leadership is always evolving.

Episode 66 - Joan Ryan

Joan Ryan is the Senior Media Consultant for the San Francisco Giants and was one of the first ever female sports columnists in the country. After learning about human beings’ need for connection and witnessing how sports teams with chemistry excel, Joan wrote “Intangibles: Unlocking the Science and Soul of Team Chemistry.” Joan and I talk about her research into social connections, how team chemistry is built, and why we need connection to thrive. 

Key Takeaways:

    • You don’t have to be the star player to contribute.
    • You have to care about your teammates and commit yourself to your craft.
    • The role of the leader is to give your team space to form bonds.
    • Connections help us thrive.

Episode 67 - Alicia Butler Pierre

Alicia Butler Pierre wrote the world’s first published book on business infrastructure for small businesses. She and her company have spent nearly two decades helping businesses optimize their systems and work efficiently. Alicia and I talk about the role of the leader, why teams need a well-rounded communication strategy, and how to get everyone behind the same goal. 

Key Takeaways:

    • The leader sets the tone.
    • Growth goals need to be shared at every level of the company.
    • Be patient and listen to what your team has to say.
    • Regular team meetings are essential.

Episode 68 - Inga Stasiulionytė

Inga Stasiulionytė went from the Lithuanian National Javelin Team to USC to the 2008 Beijing Olympics. Inga is now an elite performance and leadership coach and the co-founder of Elevating Leadership Institute. Inga and I talk about the importance of mental performance, addressing your ego and how you affect others, and the role of joy in leadership. 

Key Takeaways:

    • When you’re on a team, your language should be ‘we’ centered. 
    • The way you motivate your team needs to be sustainable.
    • Self-reflection and self-awareness are needed to evolve.
    • A joyful leader creates a welcoming and productive space.

Episode 69 - Mike Matoso

From pitching in the College Baseball World Series to Vice President of Intercollegiate Athletics at Saint Mary’s College of California, Mike Matoso has spent decades in collegiate sports. In 2022, he was named the NACDA Athletic Director of the Year. Delve into his insights, including empowering teams, decisive leadership, and fostering meaningful connections. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Let your team do their job.
    • Make decisions decisively and respectfully.
    • Foster frequent communication and connection with your team. 
    • Adapt your approach to individuals’ needs and preferences.

Episode 70 - Content Leadership Workshop

This week’s episode is a webinar we co-hosted with Sports Video Group on content leadership in pro sports. The discussion is with Vittorio DeBartolo, Senior Director of Marketing for the Oakland A’s, Rael Enteen, VP of Content at the Washington Commanders, and Jessica Ciccone, VP of Content Strategy – Marketing at the New York Jets. We talk about evolving as a leader, empowering your group, and treating people as individuals. 

Key Takeaways:

    • You should constantly be learning and evolving as a leader.
    • Your attitude sets the tone for your team.
    • Micromanagement is not conducive to good work.
    • See the person, not just the role they perform. 

Episode 71 - Eray Saban

Eray Saban is the Assistant General Manager, ASM Jacksonville and Director of EverBank Stadium. In 2020, he was awarded the Venue Management Association’s Young Achiever of the Year and in 2022, he was recognized as the International Association of Venue Managers’ 30 Under 30. Eray and I talk about the importance of curiosity, putting effort into forging connections, and the activism he does for causes dear to him. 

Key Takeaways:

    • You have to put effort into your goals.
    • Treat everybody with curiosity and kindness.
    • Teams need to work together for the betterment of the organization.
    • Most people just want to be heard. 

Episode 72 - Shauna Griffiths

Shauna Griffiths was a Division One student athlete before spending nearly 20 years building her leadership, marketing, and business experience. Now she is the founder of SLG Impact and is inspiring businesses and leaders to optimize their impact. Shauna and I talk about the mindset athletes possess, leading with authenticity and care, and learning from those around you. 

Key Takeaways:

    • Be a sponge – learn from those around you.
    • Resiliency and dedication are the foundation of your journey. 
    • Show the people you lead that you care about them.
    • We need to have more conversations about leadership.